Do You Care Too Much What Other People Think of You? Avoid Conflict? Say Yes When You Shouldn't? | Dr. Ingrid Clayton, Fawning Expert

Do You Care Too Much What Other People Think of You? Avoid Conflict? Say Yes When You Shouldn't? | Dr. Ingrid Clayton, Fawning Expert

December 01, 2025 1 hr 15 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode dives into the concept of fawning, a trauma response where individuals appease or caretake to maintain safety in relationships. Dr. Ingrid Clayton, a clinical psychologist and author, explores the roots, manifestations, and practical steps to unfawn, offering tools for self-awareness, boundary-setting, and healing. The conversation also examines the role of power dynamics, the physiological underpinnings of fawning, and the importance of relational healing.

Notable Quotes

- Fawning is connection as protection.Dr. Ingrid Clayton, on the survival mechanism behind fawning.

- Wounding happens in relationships, but so does healing.Dr. Ingrid Clayton, on the relational nature of trauma and recovery.

- If you can't be cheesy, you can't be free.Dan Harris, on embracing vulnerability and unconventional healing practices.

🧠 What is Fawning?

- Fawning is a trauma response, akin to fight, flight, or freeze, where individuals appease or caretake to reduce relational threats.

- It often stems from unsafe or insecure relationships, particularly in childhood, but can also occur in systemic power dynamics (e.g., patriarchy, racism).

- Chronic fawning can lead to self-abandonment, as individuals prioritize external validation over their own needs.

⚡ The Physiology and Psychology of Fawning

- Fawning combines fight-flight energy (mobilization) with freeze energy (dissociation), creating a complex physiological response.

- This response is unconscious and reflexive, driven by the body’s prioritization of safety.

- Chronic fawning often feels like a personality trait, but it’s deeply conditioned by past experiences and societal expectations.

🛠️ Practical Steps to Unfawn

- Inner Work: Build internal safety by tuning into your body and emotions. Practices like somatic experiencing (SE) and Internal Family Systems (IFS) can help reconnect with the self.

- Small Steps: Start with low-stakes scenarios, like correcting a waiter or expressing a preference, to practice asserting yourself.

- Boundary-Setting: Use modified boundaries to find a middle ground, such as partially agreeing to a request while maintaining your limits.

- Regulate Your Nervous System: Engage your senses (e.g., noticing sights, sounds) or recall safe, calming memories to ground yourself.

💼 Fawning in the Workplace

- Fawning often manifests as overworking, avoiding conflict, or seeking validation from authority figures.

- To address this, identify the perceived consequences of not fawning and assess whether they are real or exaggerated.

- Practice small acts of self-assertion and seek environments where your full self is valued.

🌱 Healing Through Relationships

- Healing requires both self-validation and relational validation. Being seen and acknowledged by others can be profoundly healing.

- Vulnerability with safe people fosters deeper, more authentic connections.

- Leaders and those in power can create safer spaces by encouraging feedback, rewarding honesty, and flattening hierarchies.

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📋 Episode Description

Practical tools to turn down the volume on fawning.

 

Dr. Ingrid Clayton is a licensed clinical psychologist with a master's in transpersonal psychology and a Ph.D. in clinical psychology. Her book is FAWNING: Why the Need to Please Makes Us Lose Ourselves—and How to Find our Way Back.

 

In this episode we talk about:

  • What is fawning, actually 
  • Chronic vs situational fawning
  • The physiological ramifications of fawning
  • How power plays into all of this
  • Ways to get clarity around unseen bruises and wounds that drive your behavior
  • Owning your anger – and how to express it in healthy ways 
  • How to know if you're a fawner 
  • Practical steps to unfawn  
  • Accessible approaches to regulating your nervous system
  • How to set boundaries
  • Fawning and un-fawning in a work context, specifically 
  • And her observation, which I've been thinking about a lot, that wounding happens in relationships… but so does healing

 

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