#973 - Rory Sutherland - Waymo, Texas Culture, Airline Lounges, OpenAI & Uber Eats

#973 - Rory Sutherland - Waymo, Texas Culture, Airline Lounges, OpenAI & Uber Eats

July 28, 2025 1 hr 53 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode dives into the quirks of human behavior, marketing insights, and the intersection of technology and culture. Rory Sutherland, a leading expert in consumer behavior, shares his thoughts on everything from Texas culture to the future of AI in decision-making, while offering practical ideas for improving everyday experiences like airports, food delivery, and even advertising.

Notable Quotes

- The airship would be extraordinarily high status as a mode of transport because it suggests you have money, but also spare time.Rory Sutherland, on the allure of blimps.

- If you're in a privileged position, it's slightly rude to your ancestors to not enjoy the things you have.Rory Sutherland, on the duty of enjoying modern comforts.

- A negative I don't care about is actually a positive.Rory Sutherland, on finding overlooked opportunities in the property market.

🛣️ Texas Culture & Driving Etiquette

- Rory reflects on his visit to Bucky’s, a Texas mega gas station, praising its scale and unique charm. He highlights its partnership with the Texas Department of Transportation and the iconic Don't Mess with Texas anti-littering campaign.

- Discusses the cultural differences in driving etiquette between the US and UK, noting Texans’ surprising generosity on the road compared to other US states.

- Observes how autonomous vehicles like Waymo struggle with human drivers’ lack of courtesy, as they don’t inspire fear or guilt in other road users.

✈️ Rethinking Airports & Travel

- Rory critiques the inefficiencies of modern airports, suggesting innovations like smaller terminals, ambiguous gate assignments to reduce queuing, and mobile lounges that drive passengers directly to planes.

- He praises London City Airport for its simplicity and speed, contrasting it with sprawling, shopping-mall-like hubs.

- Advocates for more thoughtful design in travel experiences, such as offering monitors in hotel rooms for dual-screen work setups or concierge services for car rentals.

🤖 AI & Decision-Making

- Explores how AI could shift the balance of power in advertising, with consumers using AI agents to find products rather than companies targeting consumers.

- Highlights how changing the context of decision-making (e.g., ordering on a screen vs. face-to-face) alters behavior, such as people ordering more food via kiosks.

- Discusses the potential of AI wearables like conversational devices and digital monocles to revolutionize how we interact with technology.

🍔 Food Delivery & Consumer Behavior

- Critiques the overwhelming choice on food delivery apps and the difficulty of making decisions in unfamiliar cities. Suggests better filtering and personalization to reduce decision fatigue.

- Predicts that the rise of appetite-suppressing drugs like GLP-1s will lead to smaller, higher-quality food portions becoming the norm.

- Notes how the context of ordering (e.g., via app vs. in-person) influences consumer choices, such as men being more likely to order double burgers on a screen.

🏡 Wealth, Property, & Georgism

- Argues that rising property prices have unfairly enriched older generations at the expense of younger ones, calling for land value taxes to address this imbalance.

- Critiques the two-income household model, which has become an obligation rather than an option, driving up housing costs without improving quality of life.

- Highlights the need for smarter property searches that allow buyers to filter for negatives they don’t mind, turning them into hidden positives.

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📋 Episode Description

Rory Sutherland is one of the world’s leading consumer behaviour experts, the Vice Chairman of Ogilvy Advertising and an author.


The world is evolving at an unprecedented pace. With the rise of AI, we're witnessing a collision between the old world and the new. As technology advances, the question becomes: how can innovation repair outdated systems and shape the future in marketing and beyond?


Expect to learn about Rory’s first experience to Buccee’s, what Rory’s thoughts are on Waymo, Autonomous driving and the current experience of going through airports, what are some unknown gems in the UK to visit that no one knows about, how Rory would improve food delivery apps, the future of AI in marketing and AI wearables, Rory’s advice for what people should do to optimise for attention, and much more…


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Timestamps:


(0:00) Don't Mess with Texas


(3:31) Driving Etiquette in the Us vs the UK


(13:02) The Genius Behind Reverse Benchmarking


(20:13) Improving the Airport Experience


(36:28) How AI Changes Your Decision-Making


(45:50) How Can Businesses Generate Repeat Purchase?


(55:31) Should We All Start Using Blimps?


(01:03:12) Improving Food Delivery Apps


(01:12:46) Is it an Option or an Obligation?


(01:19:18) Is Money Becoming Unhealthily Concentrated?


(01:31:10) How to be Smart with Your Money


(01:40:31) Should We Get Rid of 'Adults Only' Areas?


(01:44:37) The Great Complaint of Calvin Klein's Daughter


(01:46:25) The Brilliance of Cuddly Animal Marketing


(01:52:08) Rory's Product Ad


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