Guide to the AI Barnyard, Eli Lilly Hits $1T Valuation, Has AI Ruined the Em Dash? | Julia Steinberg, Bobby Ghoshal

Guide to the AI Barnyard, Eli Lilly Hits $1T Valuation, Has AI Ruined the Em Dash? | Julia Steinberg, Bobby Ghoshal

November 21, 2025 β€’ 2 hr 44 min
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πŸ€– AI Summary

Overview

This episode dives into Eli Lilly's historic $1 trillion valuation, the dynamics of the AI and pharmaceutical industries, and the evolving landscape of technology and commerce. It also features insights from Julia Steinberg on urbanism and capitalism, and Bobby Ghoshal on building Dupe.com, a shopping platform revolutionizing price transparency.

Notable Quotes

- Obesity is a massive disease. It really is that trillion-dollar opportunity. - John Coogan, on Eli Lilly's market dominance.

- The em dash is deeply humanβ€”it’s the breath mark of Emily Dickinson, the stream of consciousness of Virginia Woolf. - Joel Stein, defending the embattled punctuation mark.

- We want to be the canonical answer engine for β€˜how do I get this for less?’ - Bobby Ghoshal, on Dupe.com's mission.

πŸ’Š The Rise of Eli Lilly and the Weight Loss Market

- Eli Lilly becomes the first $1 trillion pharmaceutical company, driven by its GLP-1 weight loss drugs.

- The weight loss market is projected to grow exponentially, with Eli Lilly expected to generate $100 billion annually from this segment by 2034.

- Discussion on the rivalry between Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, including Novo's costly patent misstep in Canada.

- Insights into the pharmaceutical industry's shift from intellectual property monopolies to competitive markets.

πŸ“Š Adobe Acquires SEMrush and the SEO Landscape

- Adobe's $1.9 billion acquisition of SEMrush highlights the growing importance of generative engine optimization (GEO).

- The deal signals increased competition in the SEO and GEO markets, with companies like ProFound and others vying for dominance.

πŸ“ Guide to the AI Barnyard

- A playful metaphorical breakdown of the AI industry, featuring companies as barnyard animals:

- NVIDIA as the cash cow dominating AI profits.

- Google as the fat cat, rich in resources and leading in AI models.

- OpenAI as the lion, taking the lion's share of the AI market.

- Meta as the pig at the slop trough, criticized for its AI content strategy.

- Discussion on the competitive dynamics and future of AI, including the rise of Chinese open-source models.

πŸ“š Julia Steinberg on Urbanism and Capitalism

- Julia Steinberg previews Arena Magazine's upcoming issue, An Ode to Capitalism.

- She critiques large-scale government infrastructure projects, advocating for private sector efficiency.

- Shares her experiences in San Francisco, highlighting homelessness and public safety issues, while noting improvements during major events like Xi Jinping's visit.

πŸ›’ Bobby Ghoshal on Dupe.com and the Future of Shopping

- Dupe.com helps users find similar products at better prices, focusing on categories like furniture and fashion.

- The platform has reached 18 million shoppers and is nearing $100 million in gross merchandise value.

- Ghoshal discusses challenges in building partnerships with brands and the importance of live inventory and customer feedback.

- Plans to expand into new categories like perfumes and integrate with LLMs to scale globally.

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πŸ“‹ Episode Description

  • (00:11) - Eli Lilly Hits $1T Valuation

  • (11:24) - Adobe to Buy Semrush for $1.9B

  • (15:27) - Guide to the AI Barnyard

  • (44:13) - AMD Chief Challenges Nvidia Dominance

  • (57:13) - WSJ Mansion Section

  • (01:04:30) - Has AI Ruined the Em Dash?

  • (01:14:36) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

  • (01:52:42) - Julia Steinberg, General Manager of Books and editor at Arena Magazine, discusses the upcoming release of Arena's Issue 006, themed "An Ode to Capitalism," scheduled for December 1st. She reflects on the challenges of large-scale government infrastructure projects, expressing skepticism about their efficiency compared to private sector initiatives. Additionally, she shares her experiences living in San Francisco, highlighting issues like homelessness and public safety, and notes the city's efforts to improve conditions during major events.

  • (02:24:11) - Bobby Ghoshal, co-founder and CEO of Dupe.com, discusses how Dupe serves as a shopping companion that helps users find desired products or similar alternatives at better prices, emphasizing its role in providing confidence to shoppers. He highlights the challenges in building the product experience, noting the importance of partnerships with brands to access live inventory, pricing, and customer behavior data, which are crucial for accurate recommendations. Ghoshal also shares the company's growth, mentioning that Dupe has reached approximately 18 million shoppers and is approaching $100 million in gross merchandise value, with plans to expand into categories like fashion and perfumes.


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