Trump's tariffs take a toll

Trump's tariffs take a toll

October 13, 2025 β€’ 25 min
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πŸ€– AI Summary

Overview

This episode delves into the economic impact of Trump's proposed 100% tariffs on Chinese imports, the ripple effects of ongoing tariff uncertainty on businesses, and the broader implications for GDP growth. It also explores the changing dynamics of the U.S. labor market, the need for public AI infrastructure, and the challenges of economic data collection during a government shutdown.

Notable Quotes

- Who wants to run a company where for at least the next three years, you're going to be dancing with the tariffs and not knowing where we're headed? – Greg Sugar, on the unpredictability of tariff policies.

- Women's employment, particularly Black women right now, appears to be a leading indicator... but without demographic data, we don’t get to see those canaries in the coal mine. – Kate Bond, on the critical role of labor data.

- If it's only five companies as the sole vanguards of truth in AI, you're not going to get the curiosity-driven breakthroughs that aren't profit-driven. – Russell Wald, on the need for public AI research infrastructure.

πŸ“ˆ GDP Growth Amid Uncertainty

- The National Association for Business Economics revised its GDP growth forecast from 1.3% to 1.8%, with the Atlanta Fed projecting third-quarter growth as high as 3.8%.

- Henry App explains that a drop in imports, driven by earlier tariff stockpiling, and significant capital investment in AI data centers are key contributors to this growth.

- Stephanie Kelton highlights the wealth effect, where stock market gains have fueled consumer spending, particularly among the top 10% of earners.

- Economists like Shannon Grein caution that this growth may not be sustainable due to ongoing uncertainty around tariffs, interest rates, and government shutdowns.

πŸ“¦ Tariff Turmoil and Business Desperation

- Trump's announcement of 100% tariffs on Chinese imports has left businesses scrambling.

- Beth Beneke, owner of Busy Baby, describes the chaos of trying to manage inventory amid unpredictable tariff policies, compounded by rising costs for parents.

- Greg Sugar of Bow Ties of Vermont and Ben Kneppler of True Places express frustration over the inability to plan long-term due to shifting trade rules.

- Many business owners report a shift from frustration to desperation, with some questioning their ability to survive prolonged tariff uncertainty.

πŸ“‰ Labor Market Shifts and Data Challenges

- The U.S. labor market's break-even employment has dropped to 30,000 new jobs per month, down from 250,000 in 2023, due to reduced immigration and demographic changes.

- Kate Bond warns that the government shutdown has disrupted critical labor data collection, leaving policymakers and researchers blind to key demographic trends, particularly among vulnerable groups like Black women.

- The lack of timely and accurate data could delay responses to economic downturns, exacerbating potential recessions.

πŸ€– Public AI Infrastructure and Equity

- California's CalCompute initiative aims to create a public GPU cluster for startups and researchers, addressing the dominance of big tech in AI development.

- Russell Wald and Stella Biederman emphasize the need for independent, open AI research to ensure transparency and innovation beyond profit-driven motives.

- Publicly funded AI infrastructure could enable breakthroughs similar to those achieved with government-backed projects like GPS and the internet.

πŸŽ₯ Hollywood’s Economic Struggles

- On-location film production in Los Angeles dropped 6.2% year-over-year, with the industry still recovering from earlier disruptions like wildfires.

- Costume designer Nancy Steiner reflects on the historical and cultural significance of her work, highlighting the broader economic challenges faced by behind-the-scenes workers in Hollywood.

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πŸ“‹ Episode Description

In another wave of tariff news, Trump announced a 100% tariff on Chinese goods that will take effect in November. The constant back and forth of tariff policy has left import-reliant business owners frustrated, defeated and wondering how long they can hold out. Also in this episode: Slowing immigration explains a change in break-even employment, California explores public AI compute projects to create shared GPU infrastructure, and GDP may grow more than expected, despite economic uncertainty.


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