
Anthropic's CPO on what comes next | Mike Krieger (co-founder of Instagram)
🤖 AI Summary
Overview
Mike Krieger, Chief Product Officer at Anthropic and co-founder of Instagram, shares insights on how AI is reshaping product development, the future of AI-powered tools, and lessons from his journey, including the shutdown of Artifact. He explores Anthropic's innovative use of AI, strategies for competing in the AI space, and the evolving role of product teams in an AI-driven world.
Notable Quotes
- 90% of your code, roughly, is written by AI now.
— Mike Krieger, on the transformative impact of AI in software development.
- When you're making hard product decisions, remember the quiet moments matter too—the person working through grief at 3:00 AM, the kid discovering they love poetry, the founder finding clarity in confusion.
— Claude, Anthropic's AI model, on the importance of meaningful human experiences.
- Claude has no chill.
— Mike Krieger, humorously describing the AI's conversational tendencies and the challenge of training it to balance engagement.
🧠 AI's Role in Product Development
- Anthropic uses AI to write 90-95% of code for some products, creating new bottlenecks like merge queues and decision-making alignment.
- Engineers now focus on structuring changes and managing edge cases rather than traditional coding tasks.
- Product managers and designers increasingly use AI to prototype ideas, accelerating the development process.
- The Claude Code team exemplifies futuristic workflows, using AI to build and review its own code.
🚀 The Future of Product Teams in an AI World
- Product teams remain vital for strategy, comprehensibility, and unlocking the potential of AI tools.
- Mike Krieger emphasizes the importance of empathy and understanding human needs, especially as AI becomes more capable.
- He advocates for embedding product managers with AI researchers to maximize impact, citing examples where this approach has yielded 10x results.
- Differentiation and focus are key for AI companies, with Anthropic leaning into its strengths in developer tools and agentic behavior.
📜 Lessons from Artifact's Shutdown
- Artifact, an AI-powered news app, faced challenges like poor mobile web experiences and limited organic growth.
- Mike Krieger reflects on the difficulty of scaling a news product and the ethical dilemmas around ad-blocking and user experience.
- He highlights the importance of knowing when to pivot or shut down, freeing up resources for more impactful opportunities.
🔗 MCP and the Future of AI Integration
- Anthropic's Model Context Protocol (MCP) is revolutionizing AI by enabling seamless integration with external tools and systems.
- MCP allows AI models to access and interact with context-rich environments, enhancing their utility and accuracy.
- Mike Krieger envisions a future where everything is an MCP,
making software universally scriptable and composable.
💡 Practical Prompting Tips for Claude
- Use direct and specific language, such as roast me
for critical feedback or think hard
for deeper reasoning.
- Anthropic's Prompt Improver tool helps users optimize prompts by iterating and refining them with AI assistance.
- Claude excels at augmenting creativity and problem-solving but requires thoughtful engagement to avoid dependency.
AI-generated content may not be accurate or complete and should not be relied upon as a sole source of truth.
📋 Episode Description
Mike Krieger is the chief product officer of Anthropic and the co-founder of Instagram. After leaving Meta, he co-founded Artifact, an AI-powered news app that I absolutely loved, and joined Anthropic to lead product in 2024.
In this episode, you'll learn:
• How Anthropic uses AI to write 90-95% of code for some products and the surprising new bottlenecks this creates
• Why embedding product managers with AI researchers yields 10x the impact of traditional product development
• The three areas where product teams can still add massive value as AI gets smarter
• How Anthropic plans to compete with OpenAI long-term
• How to use Claude as your product strategy partner (with specific prompting techniques)
• Why Mike shut down Artifact despite loving the product, and what founders can learn from it
• Where AI startups should build to avoid getting killed by OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google
• Why MCP (Model Context Protocol) might reshape how all software works
• The counterintuitive product metrics that matter for AI
• How to evaluate whether your company is maximizing AI’s potential or just scratching the surface
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction to Mike Krieger
(04:25) What Mike has changed his mind about regarding AI capabilities
(07:43) How to avoid scary AI scenarios
(09:00) Skills kids will need in an AI world
(11:58) How product development changes when 90% of code is written by AI
(17:12) Claude helping with product strategy
(21:21) A new way of working
(24:00) The future value of product teams in an AI world
(27:23) Prompting tricks to get more out of Claude
(29:57) The Rick Rubin collaboration on “vibe coding”
(32:47) How Mike was recruited to Anthropic
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