CitriniPocalypse, Dot Com Lore, Gene-Edited Polo Horses | Alap Shah, Will Brown, Michelle Lee, Mike Annunziata

CitriniPocalypse, Dot Com Lore, Gene-Edited Polo Horses | Alap Shah, Will Brown, Michelle Lee, Mike Annunziata

February 23, 2026 โ€ข 3 hr 18 min
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Overview

This episode dives into the transformative impact of AI on industries, the durability of institutions amidst technological disruption, and the future of hard tech and biotech innovation. Guests include Alap Shah on AI's economic implications, Will Brown on reinforcement learning advancements, Michelle Lee on AI-driven drug discovery, and Mike Annunziata on investing in hard tech.

Notable Quotes

- GDP, if done properly, will absolutely explode. But we have to structure our society to make the pie bigger for everyone. - Alap Shah, on the societal implications of AI-driven productivity.

- You can get these models to beat any closed-source models on sufficiently well-scoped tasks pretty quickly. - Will Brown, on the power of open-source AI customization.

- We want to be the TSMC for drug discovery. - Michelle Lee, on Medra's vision for revolutionizing life sciences with autonomous labs.

๐Ÿง  AI's Disruption of White-Collar Work

- Alap Shah highlights a significant decline in information sector jobs since 2022, attributing it to early AI adoption.

- AI's ability to automate white-collar tasks could lead to a negative feedback loop of layoffs, reduced consumer spending, and weakened demand.

- Shah emphasizes the need for proactive policies, such as taxation reforms, to mitigate economic shocks and ensure equitable distribution of AI-driven gains.

โš™๏ธ Reinforcement Learning and Open-Source AI

- Will Brown discusses Prime Intellect's new platform for reinforcement learning (RL), enabling users to train models without hardware concerns.

- The platform allows companies to customize AI for specific tasks, turning existing data into training recipes.

- Brown predicts a future where personalized RL becomes mainstream, with companies fine-tuning models for niche applications.

๐Ÿงช Gene-Edited Horses and AI in Biotech

- Polo legend Adolfo Cambiaso's use of cloned horses highlights the intersection of genetics and sports.

- Michelle Lee introduces Medra's physical AI scientists, which autonomously conduct lab experiments to accelerate drug discovery.

- Medra's $52M Series A will fund the creation of one of the largest autonomous labs in the U.S., aiming to generate high-quality data for biology foundation models.

๐Ÿ—๏ธ Investing in Hard Tech

- Mike Annunziata of Also Capital emphasizes the importance of founders who combine technical expertise with a clear vision.

- He highlights the resilience of heavy assets, low obsolescence (HALO) businesses, such as nuclear reactors and aerospace manufacturing.

- Annunziata announces Also Capital's $50M second fund, focused on early-stage hard tech investments.

๐Ÿ“‰ Market Reactions and Institutional Resilience

- The viral CitriniPocalypse essay sparked debates about AI's economic risks, with some calling it overly alarmist.

- Critics argue that institutions have more inertia and adaptability than the essay suggests, pointing to historical examples like the dot-com boom.

- The episode explores how AI-driven disruption could shift talent from software to physical industries, fostering a reindustrialization of America.

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๐Ÿ“‹ Episode Description

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  • (00:18) - CitriniPocalypse

  • (18:37) - The Durability of Institutional Inertia

  • (30:26) - ๐• Timeline Reactions

  • (44:01) - The Dot Com Boom

  • (01:00:21) - Polo's Gene-Edited Horse Clones

  • (01:11:06) - ๐• Timeline Reactions

  • (01:29:24) - Alap Shah, co-founder and former CEO of Sentieo, an AI-powered financial research platform, discusses the transformative impact of AI on white-collar employment, highlighting a significant decline in information sector jobs since 2022. He emphasizes the potential for AI to further disrupt the labor market, particularly as corporate adoption accelerates, and underscores the need for proactive measures to address these challenges.

  • (02:00:11) - Will Brown, Research Lead at Prime Intellect, discusses the company's recent release of a training platform designed to simplify reinforcement learning (RL) on open-source models, enabling users to focus on environment design and task specification without hardware concerns. He highlights the platform's accessibility, allowing users to train models effectively by converting existing data into training recipes, and notes the positive reception from the community. Additionally, Brown touches on the evolving landscape of AI, emphasizing the importance of customization and the potential of open-source models to achieve state-of-the-art performance in specialized tasks.

  • (02:23:31) - Michelle Lee is the founder and CEO of Medra, a company developing physical AI scientists to automate laboratory experiments and accelerate drug discovery. In the conversation, she discusses her background in chemical engineering and robotics, the development of intelligent robots capable of autonomously conducting experiments, and Medra's recent $52 million Series A funding to build one of the largest autonomous labs in the United States.

  • (02:30:59) - ๐• Timeline Reactions

  • (02:37:36) - Mike Annunziata, Founder and Managing Partner at Also Capital, has a background in venture capital and entrepreneurship, including co-founding Farther Farms and serving as a board member at Varda Space Industries. In the conversation, he discusses his non-traditional path into venture capital, emphasizing the importance of investing in founders who are magnets for top-tier talent and have a clear, pragmatic vision. He also highlights the significance of having fun while playing to win, and announces the launch of Also Capital's second fund, totaling $50 million.

  • (03:00:07) - ๐• Timeline Reactions


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