Trump Said Family Separations Would End. They’re Happening Again.

Trump Said Family Separations Would End. They’re Happening Again.

August 07, 2025 28 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode investigates the resurgence of family separations under President Trump’s second term, focusing on the case of a Russian family seeking asylum. It explores the administration's rationale, the emotional toll on families, and the legal loopholes enabling this practice.

Notable Quotes

- The last image I have of my son is him crying, turning his head away as I was forced to leave the room. – Evgenia, on the moment of separation from her child.

- The impulse to separate migrant families has never really gone away inside the Trump administration.Hamed Aleaziz, on the persistence of family separation policies.

- My favorite thing to do in America is to speak with you and Mama. – Maxime, an 8-year-old boy separated from his parents.

🛂 The Russian Family’s Journey to Seek Asylum

- Hamed Aleaziz recounts the story of Evgenia, Evgeny, and their son Maxime, who fled Russia due to political persecution as supporters of Alexei Navalny.

- They waited 10 months in Mexico for an asylum appointment through the CBP-1 app, which was later shut down by the Trump administration.

- With no legal pathway, they attempted to seek asylum at the U.S. border but were detained and later ordered deported.

💔 Family Separation as a Deterrent

- The family was informed at JFK Airport that refusing deportation would result in their separation from Maxime, who was placed in government custody.

- Maxime, only 8 years old, was sent to a shelter for unaccompanied children, where he struggled with language barriers and emotional distress.

- The separations, though framed as a consequence of non-compliance, effectively pressured families to abandon asylum claims and leave the U.S.

⚖️ Legal Loopholes and Policy Evolution

- The Trump administration claims these separations differ from the 2018 policy, as they occur within the U.S. interior, not at the border.

- A 2018 court ruling blocked border separations except in specific cases, but this new practice exploits a legal gray area.

- Internal ICE documents reveal that these separations are not officially categorized as family separation, allowing the administration to sidestep legal challenges.

🧠 Psychological and Emotional Toll

- Maxime’s conversations with his parents reveal his deep longing for reunion, with his favorite activities revolving around speaking to them.

- Over time, Maxime grew despondent, stopping his daily count of separation days, feeling hopeless about reunification.

- Evgenia and Evgeny described the separation as a life-altering trauma, with Maxime’s upcoming birthday marking a particularly painful milestone.

📉 The Broader Implications of the Policy

- While only nine families have been documented in similar situations, the true number may be higher.

- ICE faces mounting pressure to increase deportation numbers, using family separation as leverage to enforce compliance.

- The case highlights the enduring tension between immigration enforcement and humanitarian considerations, with families caught in the crossfire.

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📋 Episode Description

During President Trump’s first term, the intentional separation of migrant child from their parents shocked the country and persuaded Mr. Trump to say he would end the practice for good.

Hamed Aleaziz, who covers immigration policy for The Times, has found that in Mr. Trump’s second term, the practice has returned.

Guest: Hamed Aleaziz, who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.

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Photo: Victor J. Blue for The New York Times


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