SaaSpocalypse Revisited, Singer x Louis Vuitton, Aman vs Ryan Walker | Igor Babuschkin, Brannin McBee, Garret Langley, Sonya Huang, Sean Cole

SaaSpocalypse Revisited, Singer x Louis Vuitton, Aman vs Ryan Walker | Igor Babuschkin, Brannin McBee, Garret Langley, Sonya Huang, Sean Cole

August 13, 2026 • 2 hr 11 min
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Overview

This episode dives into the resurgence of SaaS companies post-SaaSpocalypse, explores the intersection of luxury and technology with Singer x Louis Vuitton, and examines North Korea's infiltration of U.S. remote jobs. It also features interviews with leaders in AI, infrastructure, and public safety, discussing groundbreaking innovations, privacy concerns, and the future of computing.

Notable Quotes

- Shopify isn't a victim of AI. AI is a victim of Shopify. – John Coogan, on Shopify's resilience in the AI era.

- The consequence of being consequential is what I tell the team. – Garrett Langley, on Flock Safety's role in balancing privacy and public safety.

- Not your weights, not your product. – Sonya Huang, emphasizing the importance of owning AI intelligence for startups.

🖥️ SaaSpocalypse Revisited

- John Coogan and Jordi Hays reflect on the SaaSpocalypse, where $2 trillion in SaaS market cap was wiped out, but many companies have since rebounded.

- The iShares tech ETF is up 30% in six months, signaling recovery. Companies like Shopify and Spotify have demonstrated resilience through network effects and low customer cost burdens.

- AI's role in SaaS: While AI tools threaten some SaaS companies, others like Twilio and CrowdStrike are thriving by leveraging their infrastructure and network effects.

đźš— Singer x Louis Vuitton Collaboration

- The hosts debate the aesthetics of the Singer x Louis Vuitton Porsche collaboration, with Jordi Hays calling it AI slop IRL for its over-the-top design.

- Comparisons are drawn to more subdued collaborations like the ALD Porsche, which was praised for its restraint.

- The discussion highlights the tension between luxury branding and functional design in high-profile collaborations.

🕵️ North Korea's Secret U.S. Workforce

- A Wall Street Journal investigation reveals North Korea's use of stolen identities and AI tools to infiltrate U.S. remote jobs, funneling $800 million annually to the regime.

- North Korean IT workers use AI to pass technical interviews and even employ Americans as facilitators to host company laptops.

- The FBI warns of potential cybersecurity risks, as these workers could plant spyware in U.S. systems.

đź”’ Flock Safety's Privacy Debate

- Garrett Langley, CEO of Flock Safety, discusses new privacy measures, including mandatory audit logs and reduced data retention from 30 to 7 days.

- The company faces backlash over surveillance concerns, with some arguing its tools could be misused by law enforcement.

- Langley emphasizes the need for regulation and transparency, noting that Flock's tools have solved a million crimes and located 25 missing persons in the past month.

đź§  Biological Computing with Parasma

- Sean Cole, founder of Parasma, explains how his company is training lab-grown human neurons for computing tasks like token prediction.

- Biological computing offers potential advantages in energy efficiency, rapid learning, and continual adaptation.

- Near-term applications include automating lab processes and using the technology for drug testing, while long-term goals aim to revolutionize computing substrates.

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đź“‹ Episode Description

  • (00:37) - SaaSpocalypse Revisited

  • (13:46) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

  • (25:13) - Singer x Louis Vuitton

  • (33:33) - North Korea Infiltrates U.S Jobs

  • (39:06) - Aman vs Ryan Walker

  • (50:57) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions

  • (54:49) - Igor Babuschkin discusses his journey from physicist to AI researcher at DeepMind and OpenAI, co-founder of xAI, and founder of River AI. He outlines River AI’s vision for personalized, user-owned models while exploring video games as AI benchmarks, real-world reinforcement learning, specialized models, GPU demand, and custom inference chips.

  • (01:11:33) - Brannin McBee discusses CoreWeave’s strong second-quarter performance and his role as the AI infrastructure company’s co-founder. He highlights financing, data-center capacity, hardware longevity, global expansion, and CoreWeave’s ability to meet rapidly growing demand for AI computing.

  • (01:26:34) - Garrett Langley discusses Flock Safety’s new privacy and accountability measures, including mandatory audit-log reviews and shorter data-retention recommendations. The founder and CEO addresses surveillance concerns, police misuse, regulatory challenges, and the need to balance public safety with privacy and community trust.

  • (01:45:08) - Sonya Huang, a general partner at Sequoia Capital, discusses the unprecedented growth of AI companies and the democratization of model development across startups. She argues that application companies should increasingly own and customize their AI intelligence, while emphasizing that small internal teams can use maturing post-training tools and specialized partners to build competitive models.

  • (01:58:01) - Sean Cole discusses Parasma’s work training lab-grown human neurons for computing tasks, including basic token prediction. He highlights biological computing’s potential advantages in energy efficiency, rapid learning, and continual adaptation, while outlining plans to automate the company’s lab and generate near-term revenue through applications such as drug testing.

  • (02:06:06) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions


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