How Intercom rose from the ashes by betting everything on AI | Eoghan McCabe (founder and CEO)

How Intercom rose from the ashes by betting everything on AI | Eoghan McCabe (founder and CEO)

August 21, 2025 1 hr 23 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode explores how Intercom, under the leadership of Eoghan McCabe, transformed from a plateauing SaaS company into an AI-first business with its flagship product, Fin. The conversation delves into the cultural, strategic, and personal changes required to achieve this dramatic pivot, offering lessons for companies navigating the AI revolution.

Notable Quotes

- AI is going to disrupt in the most aggressive, violent ways. If you're not in it, you're about to get kicked out of all of it.Eoghan McCabe, on the urgency of embracing AI.

- When I interrogate my heart and my mind, I believe AI agents are more personal than making customers wait days for a canned response.Eoghan McCabe, on reconciling AI with Intercom's mission.

- Greatness is created when a CEO is willing to make brave, hard decisions and own the results.Eoghan McCabe, on leadership during transformation.

🚀 The AI Pivot: From SaaS to Fin

- Intercom was facing stagnation, with growth nearing negative territory. Eoghan McCabe returned as CEO and pivoted the company to focus on AI.

- Within six weeks of ChatGPT-3.5's release, Intercom developed a prototype for Fin, an AI agent for customer service.

- Fin now leads the customer experience (CX) category, growing at over 300% annually and projected to surpass $100M ARR in under three quarters.

- The pivot was driven by a nothing to lose mindset, enabling bold decisions and rapid execution.

🛠️ Cultural Overhaul and Leadership Transformation

- McCabe rewrote Intercom's values to emphasize resilience, high standards, and shareholder value, cutting out ineffective cultural elements.

- A rigorous performance process was introduced, grading employees on both results and alignment with company values. This led to a 40% turnover but resulted in a highly aligned, entrepreneurial team.

- Despite initial resistance, including a soft coup attempt, employee satisfaction soared to 98% after the changes.

- Therapy and personal growth helped McCabe adopt a more centered, reflective leadership style, which he credits for his effectiveness during the transformation.

💰 Reinventing Pricing: From Hated to Loved

- Intercom's old pricing model was widely criticized for its complexity and perceived unfairness.

- The company simplified its pricing, aligning it with customer outcomes. Fin charges $0.99 per resolved ticket, a stark contrast to the $20–$30 industry average.

- This shift not only improved customer retention but also reinforced Intercom's commitment to fairness and transparency.

🤖 The Future of Work: Humans and Agents

- McCabe envisions a future where AI agents handle repetitive, operational tasks, freeing humans for creative and strategic roles.

- CX, sales, and other operational roles will see significant automation, but human connection and trust will remain irreplaceable in certain areas.

- He predicts smaller, flatter organizations with humans and agents collaborating seamlessly, driving efficiency and economic growth.

🧠 Lessons in Adaptation and Survival

- Companies must embrace AI or risk obsolescence. McCabe emphasizes the need for talent, speed, and a willingness to work hard to compete with AI-native startups.

- Founders of legacy companies must either fully commit to the AI transition or step aside for leaders who can.

- Intercom's transformation highlights the importance of bold leadership, cultural alignment, and a relentless focus on innovation.

AI-generated content may not be accurate or complete and should not be relied upon as a sole source of truth.

📋 Episode Description

Eoghan McCabe is the founder and CEO of Intercom, a customer service platform that has successfully pivoted to become an AI-first company with its agent product, Fin. After stepping away from the CEO role in 2020 due to health issues, Eoghan returned to find the company’s growth had stalled. Just one month after his return, ChatGPT launched, and within six weeks, Intercom had a working prototype of what would become Fin. In this conversation, Eoghan shares the brutal reality of transforming a late-stage SaaS business valued at multiple billions into an AI-first company that’s now growing faster than most public software companies.

We discuss:

1. Why Eoghan believes most late-stage companies won’t survive the AI transition

2. The “founder mode” transformation that required firing 40% of staff and resulted in 98% employee satisfaction

3. Why having “nothing to lose” is the ultimate advantage in AI transformation (and why comfortable companies will fail)

4. How Intercom transformed from a plateauing SaaS business to an AI-first company growing at 300%+

5. How Intercom’s pricing evolved from “the most hated in SaaS” to a model that charges just $0.99 per resolved ticket

6. The cultural transformation required to compete with AI-native startups

7. How 12 years of therapy and a period of “ego death” shaped Eoghan’s leadership approach

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Transcript: ⁠https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-intercom-rose-from-the-ashes-eoghan-mccabe

My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/170710700/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation

Where to find Eoghan McCabe:

• X: https://x.com/eoghan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eoghanmccabe/