IPOs and SPACs are Back, Mag 7 Showdown, Zuck on Tilt, Apple's Fumble, GENIUS Act passes Senate

IPOs and SPACs are Back, Mag 7 Showdown, Zuck on Tilt, Apple's Fumble, GENIUS Act passes Senate

June 21, 2025 1 hr 52 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode dives into the evolving landscape of AI, IPOs, and corporate strategies, with a focus on Meta's aggressive AI investments, the Magnificent 7 tech companies' AI race, Apple's struggles in innovation, and the resurgence of IPOs and SPACs. The episode also highlights the passing of the GENIUS Act, a pivotal moment for the crypto industry.

Notable Quotes

- You'd have to be a moron to think HTML5 was the future back then. It was obvious native apps were the way to go. - Chamath Palihapitiya, on past tech missteps.

- If you could synthetically own AWS, Azure, and GCP, you wouldn’t need to own anything else over the next five years. - Thomas Laffont, on the dominance of cloud computing.

- The GENIUS Act is a huge milestone—it brings crypto innovation back onshore and provides regulatory clarity. - David Sacks, on the significance of the new stablecoin legislation.

🧠 Meta's AI Ambitions

- Meta is making bold moves in AI, offering $100M signing bonuses to top talent and acquiring Scale AI for $14B. Thomas Laffont likened this to Meta's past acquisition of Onavo, which gave them exclusive data advantages.

- Chamath Palihapitiya emphasized that Meta's strategy hinges on acquiring secrets in training, infrastructure, and applications to compete with OpenAI and Google.

- Concerns were raised about whether Meta can truly compete without tightly coupling its AI models to proprietary hardware, as competitors like Google and OpenAI have done.

📉 Apple's AI Struggles

- Apple's lack of innovation in AI was heavily criticized. Siri remains underwhelming, and the company has failed to capitalize on its early lead in AI assistants.

- Chamath Palihapitiya argued that Apple has transitioned into a cash cow company, optimizing for revenue rather than innovation.

- Suggestions for Apple included acquiring OpenAI or building a humanoid robot to regain relevance in the AI race. David Friedberg proposed an ambient AI assistant leveraging Apple's ecosystem of devices.

📈 IPOs and SPACs Resurgence

- The IPO market is heating up, with companies like CoreWeave and Circle seeing massive oversubscription and valuation spikes. CoreWeave's market cap hit $81B, while Circle's reached $48B.

- Thomas Laffont noted that SaaS growth has slowed significantly, pushing investors to seek high-growth opportunities in AI and crypto.

- SPACs are also making a comeback, with Chamath Palihapitiya teasing a potential new SPAC, though he cautioned retail investors to stay away.

🤖 Amazon as a Kingmaker in AI

- Amazon's investments in robotics, self-driving, and custom silicon position it as a key player in physical AI. Chamath Palihapitiya described Amazon as a kingmaker that could drive demand for robots like Tesla's Optimus.

- Andy Jassy's recent manifesto highlighted Amazon's plans to use AI to reduce its corporate workforce while increasing efficiency.

- David Friedberg predicted that companies adopting AI-driven custom software will outperform those clinging to legacy systems, creating significant market dispersion.

🏛️ GENIUS Act and Crypto Regulation

- The GENIUS Act, a stablecoin regulation bill, passed the Senate with bipartisan support. It mandates audits and full reserves for stablecoin issuers, bringing crypto innovation back onshore.

- David Sacks credited President Trump and bipartisan efforts for the bill's success, emphasizing its importance in providing regulatory clarity and boosting consumer confidence.

- The act requires offshore issuers like Tether to comply within three years, leveling the playing field for US-based companies like Circle.

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📋 Episode Description

(0:00) The Besties welcome Thomas Laffont!

(3:26) State of LA, Hollywood's decline, positivity around GDP growth and AI productivity

(10:19) Zuck on tilt over AI: $100M offers, Scale AI deal, hiring spree

(23:58) Mag 7 AI Showdown: Ranking the most likely AI winners, biggest stock divergences, and more

(42:41) Why Apple is fumbling AI and how they can fix it?

(57:02) IPOs and M&A heating up in 2025

(1:16:18) State of liquidity: SPACs, Direct Listings, and more

(1:25:40) Amazon's "kingmaker" position, job displacement

(1:37:47) Sacks joins to discuss the GENIUS Act passing the Senate

(1:52:13) Animal trailer

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Referenced in the show:

https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/17/sam-altman-says-meta-tried-and-failed-to-poach-openais-talent-with-100m-offers

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/zuckerberg-makes-metas-biggest-bet-on-ai-14-billion-scale-ai-deal.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html

https://scale.com/blog/scale-ai-announces-next-phase-of-company-evolution

https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-talks-hire-former-github-ceo