The Painful Psychological Cost Of Becoming A Dad - Darby Saxbe - #1129
🤖 AI Summary
Overview
This episode explores the psychological, hormonal, and societal changes men experience when they become fathers. Dr. Darby Saxbe delves into the concept of dad brain,
the parallels and differences between fatherhood and motherhood, the challenges of postpartum depression in men, and how societal expectations shape modern fatherhood. The conversation also highlights actionable insights for new dads and couples navigating parenthood.
Notable Quotes
- I would argue that being a good dad is one of the most manly things you can do. You’re literally rearing the next generation.
– Darby Saxbe, on redefining masculinity through fatherhood.
- If you think having a baby is going to fix your relationship, don’t do it.
– Darby Saxbe, on the challenges of parenting and relationship dynamics.
- We want dads to act more like primary caregivers, but we’re not willing to accept that they’ll have vulnerabilities tied to that.
– Darby Saxbe, on the stigma surrounding paternal mental health.
🧠 The Science of Dad Brain
- Fathers experience a reduction in gray matter volume, particularly in the cortex, which is tied to executive functioning and reasoning. This change is smaller in magnitude compared to mothers but is influenced by the father’s level of caregiving.
- Key behaviors that trigger dad brain
include hands-on caregiving like feeding, diapering, and playing with the baby. These activities enhance the brain’s mentalizing network, which governs empathy and emotional attunement.
- Fathers who invest more time in caregiving report stronger bonds with their children and show greater neurological changes.
📜 How Fatherhood Has Evolved Over Generations
- Fathers today spend three to four times more daily parenting hours compared to dads in the 1950s and 60s. This shift accelerated during the pandemic, as remote work allowed men to engage more in childcare.
- In hunter-gatherer societies like the Aka in Congo, fathers are highly involved in infant care due to egalitarian social structures. This contrasts with other societies, such as the Kipsigis, where men are discouraged from interacting with infants.
- Modern fatherhood reflects a blend of these models, with increasing expectations for men to balance caregiving and traditional roles.
🩺 Postpartum Depression in Fathers
- Around 10% of new fathers experience depressive symptoms, often linked to caregiving responsibilities, sleep deprivation, and relationship stress. This rate is comparable to the general population’s gendered predisposition to depression.
- Fathers are rarely screened for postpartum depression, leading to underdiagnosis and untreated mental health struggles.
- Social integration, such as participating in parenting groups or sharing caregiving duties, can mitigate the risk of postpartum depression for both parents.
👶 The Impact of Gender and Multiple Children on Fatherhood
- Fathers of daughters tend to experience a greater drop in testosterone and report higher parenting stress compared to fathers of sons. This may be tied to societal expectations and differing parenting styles.
- With each additional child, fathers and mothers undergo further brain changes, often enhancing multitasking and caregiving abilities. However, these changes are adaptive and not cumulative to the point of cognitive decline.
- Fathers can bond with children at any age, but early involvement in caregiving strengthens emotional connections and neurological adaptations.
💡 Advice for New Dads
- Avoid the myth that men are biologically less equipped to care for infants. Caregiving skills are learned through practice and motivation.
- Effective communication with partners and shared responsibilities can reduce stress and improve mental health for both parents.
- Recognize that fatherhood is transformative and requires adaptability. Embrace the challenges as opportunities for growth and connection.
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📋 Episode Description
Dr Darby Saxbe is a clinical psychologist, professor at USC, and author.
Do dads get postpartum depression? Mothers face enormous physical and emotional changes after childbirth, but fathers can struggle too, often in silence. So what happens to men when they become dads, why does it affect some so deeply, and how can they adapt to a new life that nature has thrust upon them?
Expect to learn what actually happens to dads after moms give birth, the physiological changes that happen to dads after birth, which behaviors create the effect known as “dad brain”, the biggest upsides and downsides of fatherhood for men, why postpartum depression in fathers goes unrecognized, the worst advice dads get, and much more…
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Timestamps:
(0:19) What is Dad Brain?
(2:18) How Fatherhood Has Changed Over Time
(8:18) What Happens to Men During Pregnancy?
(12:57) Should Fathers Be in the Delivery Room?
(13:47) Are Sympathetic Pregnancies Real?
(15:17) What Couples Should Focus on During Pregnancy
(17:56) The Real Cause of Dad Brain
(24:18) The Top Behaviours That Trigger Dad Brain
(31:31) Biology or Choice: What Makes a “Hands-On” Dad?
(33:48) The Truth Behind the Deadbeat Dad Narrative
(36:44) Can Fathers Bond at Any Age?
(38:50) How Fatherhood Changes Male Hormones
(46:44) Why Becoming a Father Is the Ultimate Masculine Role
(50:25) Does Dad Brain Get Worse With More Kids?
(53:19) How Daughters Change Fathers
(1:00:48) Does Housework Ruin Cortisol Recovery?
(1:03:43) Do Dads Experience Postpartum Depression?
(1:15:29) Why Postpartum Depression Happens in Women
(1:18:55) How to Support a Partner Through Postpartum Depression
(1:31:09) The Worst Advice New Dads Hear
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