🤖 AI Summary
Overview
This episode features DJ Shipley, a former Tier 1 Navy SEAL, who shares his journey of extreme physical and mental resilience, the challenges of transitioning from military life, and the tools he uses to maintain peak performance. DJ discusses his structured routines, the importance of stacking micro-wins,
and his transformative experiences with emerging treatments like Ibogaine and DMT for PTSD, addiction, and depression. His insights are practical and deeply inspiring for anyone seeking to optimize their mindset, health, and relationships.
Notable Quotes
- If you think you're going to explode, explode. If you think you're going to die, die. Let it happen.
— DJ Shipley, on the transformative power of Ibogaine and DMT.
- Everybody says, 'I’d take a bullet for my kids.' You won’t lose 40 pounds for them?
— DJ Shipley, on the importance of physical health for family and longevity.
- Control the things you can control, and the things you can’t, block them out.
— DJ Shipley, on managing stress and focus.
🧠 Mental Resilience & Morning Routines
- DJ emphasizes the power of a structured morning routine to stack micro-wins
and set the tone for the day.
- His routine includes waking up at 5 AM, preparing everything the night before, and completing 25 small tasks within the first 12 minutes of waking.
- This creates a sense of control and reduces stress, allowing him to approach the day with clarity.
- He advocates for dials, not switches
—gradually adjusting focus and energy throughout the day rather than abrupt shifts.
- DJ highlights the importance of compartmentalization: being fully present in each role, whether as a father, husband, or professional.
🏋️♂️ Physical Fitness & Standards
- DJ shares his 5-day workout program, designed for functional fitness and injury prevention:
- Monday: Pull day (e.g., trap bar deadlifts, pull-ups).
- Tuesday: Press day (e.g., bench press, incline press).
- Wednesday: Core and plyometric work (e.g., rotational exercises, box jumps).
- Thursday: Brutal leg day (e.g., belt squats, lunges).
- Friday: Feel-good day (e.g., arms, shoulders, sprints).
- He developed a fitness test to measure readiness: bodyweight bench press, pull-ups, broad jump, farmer’s carry, and an 800-meter run.
- DJ stresses the importance of maintaining physical readiness for life’s demands, whether in the military, as a first responder, or in everyday life.
💊 Ibogaine, DMT & Mental Health Transformation
- DJ recounts his life-changing experience with Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT, which helped him confront deep-seated trauma and addiction.
- Ibogaine allowed him to relive and process childhood and family experiences, fostering empathy and self-awareness.
- 5-MeO-DMT provided an ego death,
dissolving his sense of self and enabling profound emotional healing.
- He credits these treatments with saving his marriage and life, emphasizing their potential for veterans and others struggling with PTSD, depression, or addiction.
- DJ now advocates for these therapies, working with organizations like Veterans Solutions to expand access and awareness.
🔥 Leadership, Legacy & Accountability
- DJ reflects on the culture of the Navy SEALs, where the collective mission outweighs individual needs.
- He highlights the importance of being a true believer
in the mission and the team.
- He stresses the need for accountability in all aspects of life, from physical fitness to relationships.
- For example, he and his wife deleted 150 toxic contacts from their lives to focus on their family and well-being.
- DJ’s mantra: Be a pro
—live with intention, represent your values, and strive to be the best version of yourself.
🇺🇸 Patriotism & Purpose
- DJ discusses the significance of the American flag and the values it represents.
- His company produces high-quality, hand-stitched American flag hats as a symbol of patriotism and integrity.
- He encourages people to embody the best of their country’s values, whether in the U.S. or abroad, and to live in a way that inspires others.
- DJ’s ultimate goal is to create a legacy of strong, resilient, and accountable individuals who uplift their communities.
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📋 Episode Description
My guest is DJ Shipley, a former Tier 1 operator Navy SEAL and now a top public educator on how to build mental and physical health and reach top-level performance in any endeavor. DJ’s life is one marked by extraordinary strivings, wins, setbacks and comebacks that together have shaped his approach to overcoming challenges of all kinds and to daily life. DJ explains a regimen of clear, practical steps and a mental stance that can allow anyone—male, female, young or old—to build extreme resilience of mind and body and to be successful in family and work. We also discuss his experience with new, emerging treatments for addiction, PTSD and depression that many people, not just veterans, are benefiting from. The tools DJ describes to “stack small wins” and to be ultra-intentional about your mindset will be of immense benefit to anyone wishing to achieve the best version of themselves.
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Timestamps
(0:00) DJ Shipley
(4:03) Mental & Physical Health, Tools: Morning Routine & Micro-wins
(8:35) Balancing Work & Family, Tools: Compartmentalization, "Control the Controllable"
(13:46) Sponsors: Rorra & BetterHelp
(16:25) Phones, Social Media vs Focus, Negativity, Tool: Consistency & Sleep
(23:05) Routine & Stressors, Exercise & Benefits, Tool: Morning Workout
(29:24) Body Awareness, Hurt vs Injury
(33:53) Physical Injury & Rehab; Exercise; Mobility, Tool: 5-Day Workout Program
(44:26) Sponsors: AGZ by AG1 & Eight Sleep
(47:29) Skateboarding, Career, Navy SEAL, BUD/S & Embracing Discomfort
(56:13) BUD/S, Motivation & Mental Resilience
(1:02:18) Navy SEALs, Iraq War & Casualties, Compartmentalization
(1:08:41) Public Press; Extortion 17, Operation Red Wings; Death of Friends
(1:16:25) High Performers, Social Media Negativity & Legacy
(1:19:37) Sponsor: Function
(1:21:24) Family Legacy, Military & Purpose, Navy SEAL Culture, Wife & Relationship
(1:30:10) Second Deployment, Helplessness & Trauma, Inspiration & Reverence
(1:38:30) Skydiving, Injury & Mental Resilience; Medical Retirement & Addiction