Arc Had Millions of Users. Why They Left It Behind for Dia. | Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal, cofounders of The Browser Company

Arc Had Millions of Users. Why They Left It Behind for Dia. | Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal, cofounders of The Browser Company

July 02, 2025 1 hr 24 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode dives into the bold decision by Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal, co-founders of The Browser Company, to pivot from their successful browser Arc to a new AI-powered browser, Dia. They discuss the challenges of leaving behind a beloved product, the vision that drove their decision, and the lessons learned from navigating public backlash and internal doubts. Dia, designed to evolve with every tab you open, represents their belief in a future where browsers are personal intelligence layers.

Notable Quotes

- What feels like your computer in five or ten years is actually going to be this layer that sits across all of your devices... a personal intelligence layer that helps you do all sorts of things. - Josh Miller, on the vision for Dia.

- AI enables a new class of software where people can make their niche software just in time, whenever they need it. - Hursh Agrawal, on the transformative potential of AI in software.

- Vibes is the moat. - Dan Shipper, summarizing the unique competitive edge of The Browser Company.

🛠️ The Pivot from Arc to Dia

- Josh and Hursh realized that AI was fundamentally changing how people interact with computers, requiring a complete rethinking of the browser.

- Arc, while beloved by early adopters, faced challenges scaling to the mass market due to its novelty tax—its innovative features were too complex for mainstream users.

- The decision to pivot was driven by their conviction that AI would redefine software, making the browser a central platform for personal intelligence.

🌐 Redefining the Browser as a Personal Intelligence Layer

- Dia is designed to get better with every tab you open, leveraging AI to create a deeply personalized experience.

- The browser integrates AI at its core, enabling tasks like summarizing YouTube videos or generating guitar chords for songs.

- The team envisions Dia as more than a browser—it’s a platform for building AI-powered tools tailored to individual workflows.

💡 Lessons from the Transition

- The pivot was emotionally and professionally challenging, with public backlash, internal doubts, and team attrition.

- Josh and Hursh credit their prototype-driven culture and mutual trust for navigating the uncertainty.

- They emphasize the importance of staying true to their vision, even when external feedback was overwhelmingly negative.

🎨 Inspiration from Romanticism and Emotional Design

- The team draws inspiration from the Romantic movement, which emphasized intangible, emotional aspects of human experience.

- They aim to create a browser that feels personal and lived-in, akin to a well-worn tool or a cozy home.

- This focus on emotional connection differentiates Dia from competitors, many of whom prioritize technical benchmarks over user affinity.

🏁 Competing in the AI Browser Race

- The Browser Company is focused on building with clarity and creativity, rather than reacting to competitors.

- They believe their culture of experimentation and their emphasis on emotional intelligence in software design will set them apart.

- While acknowledging the competitive landscape, Josh and Hursh remain committed to their vision of a browser that evolves into a personal assistant.

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📋 Episode Description

If you had millions of people using a product you spent years building, would you kill it?


That’s exactly what The Browser Company did with Arc.


The internet backlash was intense, but cofounders Josh Miller and Hursh Agrawal saw that AI was about to make the web something you talk to, not just click into. The best home for that assistant was the thing that's already between you and the internet—the browser. And they realized they couldn’t just duct-tape it on to Arc.


One year of heads-down work later, the team launched Dia in beta, and people are raving about it. Dia is a sleek, fast, browser with AI at its core—it gets better with every tab you open, becoming more and more helpful with time. 


And even though it’s still early, Josh and Hursh’s big pivot looks like one for the ages.


This week on AI & I, Josh and Hursh joined me for their first full-length podcast about their pivot from Arc to Dia. We talk through their decision-making process, the very public backlash the company faced, and the grit it took to stay the course. 


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Timestamps for Spotify:

  1. Introduction: 00:01:13

  2. The story of how Dan might’ve been the CEO of The Browser Company: 00:02:47

  3. The moment Josh and Hursh knew they had to walk away from Arc: 00:09:42

  4. How to handle the weight of the unknown in a pivot: 00:17:08

  5. The prototype-driven culture that kept The Browser Company alive: 00:23:31

  6. Why h