How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

How Your Thoughts Are Built & How You Can Shape Them | Dr. Jennifer Groh

November 10, 2025 2 hr 16 min
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🤖 AI Summary

Overview

This episode explores how the brain integrates sensory information, particularly sight and sound, to shape thoughts, focus, and emotions. Dr. Jennifer Groh provides insights into the neural mechanisms behind thinking, attention, and sensory simulations, offering practical strategies to enhance focus, manage distractions, and understand the interplay between our environment and cognitive processes.

Notable Quotes

- What goes on in our brains when we think might be that we're running simulations related to the thought using that sensory motor infrastructure of the brain.Dr. Jennifer Groh, on the nature of thoughts.

- We don't really see or hear any better than monkeys do. So what's this extra tissue doing for us? The possibility is that we're using it to generate these simulations, and that running these simulations is kind of what thought is.Dr. Jennifer Groh, on the evolution of human cognition.

- If you're in flow, you're not thinking about yourself. You're just doing.Andrew Huberman, on the essence of flow states.

🧠 The Nature of Thoughts and Sensory Simulations

- Dr. Groh explains that thoughts may be simulations in sensory areas of the brain, such as visualizing or hearing elements of a concept (e.g., imagining a cat involves visual, auditory, and even olfactory simulations).

- This theory suggests that our expanded sensory brain regions are repurposed for complex thinking, distinguishing humans from other mammals.

- Cognitive tasks like merging into traffic require reallocating sensory resources, demonstrating the interconnectedness of sensory and motor systems.

👂 Sound Localization and Sensory Integration

- The brain integrates auditory and visual information to create a coherent perception of the world, with structures like the superior colliculus playing a key role.

- Sound localization relies on subtle timing and intensity differences between the ears, as well as the unique filtering properties of ear folds.

- The auditory system's sensitivity to minute differences (e.g., half a millisecond delays) highlights the brain's computational power.

🎵 Music, Rhythm, and Emotional Connection

- Music's universality may stem from its evolutionary role in fostering group cohesion and communication, such as scaring off predators or signaling fitness during courtship.

- Rhythm is foundational to music across cultures, potentially aiding in synchronized group actions and emotional bonding.

- The emotional impact of music is tied to its ability to organize sensory input, evoke memories, and create shared experiences.

🔍 Attention, Focus, and Mental Strategies

- Attention is a limited resource influenced by sensory input and environmental context. Phones and endless scrolling can deplete this resource.

- Strategies to enhance focus include creating dedicated workspaces, using interval mental training (alternating focus and breaks), and leveraging tools like binaural beats or white noise.

- Changing physical environments or using specific music playlists can help anchor attention and re-enter flow states.

🐔 Chickens, Vision, and Attention

- Chickens can be hypnotized by drawing a line in the dirt and aligning their beak to it, demonstrating how vision can lock attention.

- This phenomenon highlights the strong link between visual focus and brain states, with potential applications for improving human attention.

- Practices like focusing on a single point, as used in some educational systems, can enhance attention and cognitive performance.

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📋 Episode Description

My guest is Dr. Jennifer Groh, PhD, professor of psychology and neuroscience at Duke University. She explains how our brain encodes sights and sounds and integrates them so we can navigate and understand the world around us. She explains what thoughts really are and how what you focus on determines your thoughts, not just in that moment but your future thoughts too. We discuss this in the context of how to improve your level of focus and happiness and how to complete tasks and task-switch more effectively. We also discuss how you can rewire the neural circuits that underlie your default patterns of thinking and attention.


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Timestamps


0:00 Jennifer Groh


3:41 Sounds & Vision, Sensory Integration; Dynamic Maps


7:42 Context & Mapping; Screens, Projection & Perception, Ventriloquists


13:52 Sound Localization


16:53 Sponsors: Lingo & Wealthfront


19:50 Hearing Loss & Sound Localization, Ear Folds


21:56 Unfamiliarity of Hearing Your Own Voice; Tool: Bone Conduction Headphones


26:16 Tool: Headphone Volume & Protecting Hearing


28:57 3D Sound, Sound Distance, Thunder, Earthquakes


37:24 Sound Integration; Sound Frequency & Distance, Warning Signals


44:36 Sponsors: AGZ by AG1 & Our Place


47:39 Music, Rhythm, Community & Emotion


57:00 Music, Military; Courtship; Evolution of Music & Language


1:02:37 Ears, Visual & Auditory Integration, Sound Localization


1:09:48 Evolution of Visual & Auditory Systems, Music; Brain Controlling Vision


1:15:17 Sponsor: Helix Sleep


1:16:45 Physical Space & Sounds; Cathedrals, Sound Delay


1:22:37 Music, Emotion & Community; Science & Admitting Weakness


1:27:01 Thinking & Sensory Simulations; Forming Thoughts


1:33:18 Attention, Attractor States, Flow States, Tool: Changing Environment


1:37:38 Sounds & Environment for Focus, Attention, Tool: Mental Interval Training


1:44:37 Sponsor: LMNT


1:45:58 Endurance & Interval Mental Work; Mental Rest, Music


1:50:37 Musician, Rehearsal & Performance; Pressure


1:54:16 Chickens; Hypnotizing Chickens, Visual Attention & Focus


2:03:47 Relaxation, Phones & Schools, Boredom, Social Media


2:12:48 Acknowledgements


2:13:58 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews &