Figure AI in WSJ, Russell d'Sa, Quaid Walker, Alex Dhillon, Robin Langtry, Everett Randle, Keller Rinaudo Cliffton

Figure AI in WSJ, Russell d'Sa, Quaid Walker, Alex Dhillon, Robin Langtry, Everett Randle, Keller Rinaudo Cliffton

April 10, 2025 3 hr 2 min
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Overview

This episode dives into the latest developments in AI, robotics, voice technology, fusion energy, venture capital, and drone delivery. It features interviews with industry leaders and explores the intersection of innovation, regulation, and market dynamics.

Notable Quotes

- Feedback beats planning. Relevant data is the most precious thing in the universe, and it's worth blowing up any number of rockets to get it because rockets are just stuff. You can always get more stuff. You can never get more time.John Carmack, on SpaceX's iterative engineering approach.

- You don’t have to be a physicist to realize this is bizarre. We’re using 3,000-pound gas combustion vehicles to deliver something that weighs five pounds. It’s a hundred-year-old solution to a five-year-old problem.Keller Rinaudo Cliffton, on Zipline’s drone delivery revolution.

- The better the company, the longer they wait to IPO because they can compound their value at 30% IRRs for much longer than they used to.Everett Randle, on the shifting dynamics of private markets.

🧠 AI and Robotics: Figure AI’s Bold Claims

- Figure AI, a startup aiming to deploy 200,000 humanoid robots by 2029, is under scrutiny after a Wall Street Journal article highlighted its $40 billion valuation despite limited revenue and production.

- The company claims partnerships with BMW and ambitious revenue projections, but skepticism remains about its ability to deliver on its promises.

- John Coogan and Jordi Hays discuss the challenges of scaling humanoid robotics and the broader implications of AI-driven automation.

🎙️ Voice AI: The Rise of Conversational Agents

- Russell d'Sa, CEO of LiveKit, shares insights into the booming Voice AI sector, highlighting partnerships with OpenAI, Spotify, and Tinder.

- Voice AI is evolving beyond basic assistants, with applications in customer support, language learning, and real-time sports commentary.

- The integration of real-time models and personalized pacing is transforming user experiences, making AI interactions feel more human-like.

⚛️ Fusion Energy: Avalanche’s Modular Approach

- Robin Langtry, CEO of Avalanche Fusion, unveils plans for a new test facility in Washington to accelerate fusion technology development.

- The company’s modular, small-scale fusion machines prioritize rapid iteration, inspired by SpaceX’s engineering philosophy.

- Langtry emphasizes the importance of deregulation and state-level licensing to unlock innovation in energy production.

💸 Venture Capital: IPO Windows and Growth Investing

- Everett Randle of Kleiner Perkins discusses the challenges of the IPO market amidst tariff uncertainty and the trend of top-tier companies delaying public listings.

- Venture funds are adapting to longer liquidity timelines, with some exploring continuation vehicles to manage extended private market durations.

- Randle highlights the importance of concentrated portfolios and investing in companies with generational potential.

🚁 Drone Delivery: Zipline’s Expansion into the U.S.

- Keller Rinaudo Cliffton, CEO of Zipline, announces the launch of its next-gen drone delivery service in Dallas, partnering with Walmart, Chipotle, and Sweetgreen.

- Zipline’s innovative system uses a mothership drone paired with a smaller delivery zip for quiet, precise, and safe home deliveries.

- The company’s focus on reducing road congestion, pollution, and delivery inefficiencies positions it as a transformative force in logistics.

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  • (39:54) - Alex Dhillon

  • (01:00:21) - Quaid Walker

  • (01:21:53) - Robin Langtry

  • (01:42:14) - Russell d'Sa

  • (02:00:56) - Everette Randle

  • (02:21:09) - Keller Rinaudo Cliffton